Monday, May 10, 2010

What Could Happen...

Any of you who are involved in applying to medical schools, have spoken with me about it, or... well, I may have written about it, too, know what will happen on May 15th (or 16th).  People applying for medical school admission for the fall can only hold one acceptance.  So for those who have been accepted at multiple schools, a semi-final decision has to be made.  The reason I say semi-final is that it is still possible to hold as many positions on waiting lists as one has been offered.  So a student who has, let's say, been accepted at UCSF, Harvard, and NYU, who is on the waiting lists at Columbia, U Washington, and UCLA has to make one decision: which, among UCSF, Harvard, and NYU, that person prefers.  Let's say said individual, who I'll call Bob, really desperately wants to go to Columbia.  But Bob would rather go to Harvard than UCSF or NYU.  Bob will turn down UCSF and NYU, who then have to turn to their waiting lists and start accepting students to fill the gap that Bob leaves.  But then, let's say, U Washington accepts Bob off of their waiting list.  Bob would then have to choose between Harvard and U Washington.  Whichever he doesn't choose then has to go to their waiting list.  And the process continues.  Endlessly.  At least, endlessly until Bob actually matriculates at a school.  If that was hard to follow, just think of the waitlists as long lines of dominoes that can be knocked over from any direction, at any time.  Bob is just one of the people who will set them in motion.

So what that could mean for me: plenty, or nothing.  It's possible that I'll get called from a waiting list at a school.  It's possible that I'll want to go there more than U Colorado.  It's possible that I'll get called from a waiting list and decide that I'd prefer U Colorado.  It's possible that I won't get called from any waiting lists.  I don't think there's anyone who can predict what will happen, and I certainly have no idea.

What I DO know, is that it's going to be very hard to write about much of anything until that happens!  Unless, of course, someone would like to suggest something for me to write about, and then I can take it from there.  Otherwise, you all get to wait, too =o)

Tuesday, May 4, 2010

The Really Good Hiatus Explanation

To many of you, my delaying for so long will have seemed unnecessary.  To those of you also applying to med school, it may still sound reasonable, but I may just look like a paranoid idiot.  But I'll explain anyway.

Several weeks ago (okay, maybe it's been months ago, now), I was accepted to a medical school.  But I didn't want to mention what school.  And I didn't want to mention where I'd been waitlisted.  I'm probably still not going to give you waitlist details, because positioning on those could be a bit perilous.  The reason behind not blurting out the good news about being accepted is that until schools have made some kind of decision about me (acceptance, rejection, waitlist, whatever), they don't know what any other school has done.  And while I don't think that schools are reading this blog, I still didn't want to risk showing my hand too early!

So here's the big news.  I got accepted to the University of Colorado in Denver.  It's a fantastic school.  Ranked really highly in primary care.  Which isn't to say that rankings are all that important to me, but it does say something about what the school chooses to emphasize, and primary care IS important to me.  While I'm not thrilled about the weather prospects in Denver, the city itself is growing, vibrant, and knows how to make winters bearable.  And it's a relatively sunny city, too.  But there are certain things about certain schools at which I've been waitlisted that make them quite appealing, too.  So in the order that I received my waitlist notifications (approximately), here are the schools:
  • U Michigan
  • UC San Diego
  • USC
  • UC Davis
  • UCLA
 I can very honestly say that I have absolutely no idea what to expect in terms of waitlists.  And I can honestly say that I would choose U Colorado over some of those schools.  Probably.

But more to the point.  I got accepted to a great school!  The nervous waiting is over!  Well, the ridiculously-scared waiting is over, anyway.

So, in keeping with my past posts, here is the status of things as they stand, with school names filled in.

Win, place, or show...
Primary applications: 17
Instant rejections: 1 (UNLV -- they only take Nevada residents)
Secondary applications: 16
Post-secondary rejections (i.e. without an interview) to date: 9 (Jefferson, UC Irvine, Boston U, Oregon Health and Science U, Northwestern, UCSF, U Iowa, NYU, Columbia)
Interview invitations to date: 6 (U Colorado, UC Davis, UCLA, U Michigan, UC San Diego, USC)
Interviews completed to date: 6 (same as above)
Post-interview rejections to date: 0
Waitlisted to date: 5 (UC Davis, UCLA, U Michigan, UC San Diego, USC)
Acceptances to date: 1 (U Colorado!)

Wednesday, February 24, 2010

Give me money.

For anyone who is curious about the way med school applications go, the very first question anyone should ask is this: how much does it all cost?  The answer is, of course, mostly dependent on how many applications one chooses to send; however, the geographical location of the schools also makes a big difference.

To give you a general idea, the first round of applications, if one chooses only to apply to AMCAS schools (and there are plenty that aren't on AMCAS, such as every public school in Texas), one must pay an application fee to each school that tends to vary a great deal.  Let's assume that the average primary application fee is $75.  That's already $750 if one were to apply to 10 schools, which is a rather paltry number of schools in the grand scheme of things.  The next step, if one has a strong enough primary application, is invitations to submit secondary applications, along with a further application fee.  Let's say that the second fee is also around $75.  If one were to get secondary invitations from most schools to which one applied, that could easily be an additional $600, bringing us to $1350 so far.

If one is then lucky enough to be invited to interview at several schools, the cost only continues to climb.  While one could significantly reduce the cost of interviewing by only applying to schools in one's immediate vicinity, this usually doesn't provide for enough strength in numbers, and one must look farther afield.  Even if one were to apply only to schools within a several-hour drive, interview days tend to start around 8am, making a hotel stay practically necessary for anything more than an hour or so away.  So, imagining that travel costs will average to $100 per school (which is a very low estimate, to be sure), and that a typical hotel stay will run around $75 for room and food (also entirely too low), a five-interview run would cost $875, bringing us to $2225.  One could also start to add in opportunity costs of missed work, and then the total begins to soar.

So what is the alternative?  Well... there isn't one.  Perhaps if one were applying with a 4.0 GPA, and a 45T on the MCAT, and if one came from a community under-represented in medicine and with an economically and educationally disadvantaged background, and had spent several years working in a medical clinic in the middle of a war zone, one could apply to just one school and reduce costs dramatically.  But most medical school applicants will not have this option.  Many will have to max out their credit cards or take out loans just to complete the application cycle.  Schools could certainly offer interviews from alumni in various cities around the country, but because the interview day is as much an opportunity for schools to sell themselves to students as it is for students to sell themselves to schools, this would diminish the utility served by the day.

That said, if you're reading this because you're thinking about applying to med school, my advice is this: go for it.  Spend the money, take out the loans, and then work as hard as you possibly can to have made the investment absolutely worth it.  If you are driven by passion, you have nothing to lose, and the payments will seem a worthwhile sacrifice.

Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digger --
Primary applications: 17
Instant rejections: 1
Secondary applications: 16
Post-secondary rejections (i.e. without an interview) to date: 5
Interview invitations to date: 6
Interviews completed to date: 4
Post-interview rejections to date: 0
Waitlisted to date: 2
Acceptances to date: 0

Monday, February 22, 2010

What kills you...

This post was meant to be about something completely different, but I've had a rough day, and read a funny e-mail, and now you're just going to have to enjoy my favorite part of the e-mail instead of some gripe or other about the medical school application process (of which, I promise, I still have many...).

For those of you who watch what you eat, here's the final word on nutrition and health. It's a relief to know the truth after all those conflicting nutritional studies.

1. The Japanese eat very little fat
    and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat
    and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

3. The Chinese drink very little red wine
    and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

4. The Italians drink a lot of red wine
    and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

5. The Germans drink a lot of beer and eat lots of sausages and fats
    and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

CONCLUSION:

Eat and drink what you like.
Speaking English is apparently what kills you.

That's funny right?  Fine, I thought it was funny.  Maybe a little over-generalized and stereotypical in its execution, but whatever.

Here are some number-y updates for you.  Note the addition of a new category!

Just a city boy --
Primary applications: 17
Instant rejections: 1
Secondary applications: 16
Post-secondary rejections (i.e. without an interview) to date: 5
Interview invitations to date: 6
Interviews completed to date: 4
Post-interview rejections to date: 0
Waitlisted to date: 2
Acceptances to date: 0

Monday, February 8, 2010

A wee update

I had been waiting to post something new until I had something more to report.  Up until this morning, that only included two more rejections, which just didn't feel like a great reason to write an update.  As of this morning, though, I've received another interview invite, bringing my total to 6.  Just to clarify, the "interviews completed" down there is also included in the interview invitations.  The only reason for keeping them separate would be so that if I were to decide not to interview somewhere, i.e. if I were to get into a school that made interviewing at some other school seem less necessary, you would be able to tell.  I don't actually know how I'll indicate that, except maybe that by mid-April, those two numbers won't match up.

The biggest thing I have to say is this: waiting is awful.  Looking back on the application process so far, I've changed my mind about what is the worst part over and over again.  At first, it was studying for the MCATs, because how could that possibly be fun?  I then thought that taking the MCATs would be the worst, but I had a really good experience with smiling test center staff, and the day felt much better.  But then applications seemed like they were for sure the worst part!  Only once I had gotten through them, they felt like an accomplishment, and no longer like something dreadful.  Leading up to my first interview, I was convinced that interviewing would be awful!  But not the case at all.  Waiting, however, is definitely awful.  And knowing that the suspense could be drawn out for a couple more months only makes it seem worse.  That said, it's a necessary part of the process.  I'd like to say that I've found a way to make waiting more entertaining, but it is what it is: the slow passing of time.  What I can say is this: it will have been worth it.  Whatever the outcome, wherever I get in or don't, wherever I end up when all is said and done, it will have been worth all of the schooling, the test studying, the test taking, the applications, the interviews, and the waiting.  I would advise people that if they consider this process and it doesn't seem worth the trouble, it probably isn't.  I very much felt that way when I was considering law school; sitting for the LSAT didn't seem worth any of the trouble.  If passion isn't driving you to stick to it and already rejoice in the end outcome, even though it is yet unknown, you might be doing yourself a favor to reconsider before you end up doing something you don't enjoy.


Maybe that's bad advice.  But it's advice that once I learned to follow has seemed to produce good results!


Now, back to waiting.


Uh oh... now that I'm looking at these numbers and actually doing some counting on my fingers, there's definitely a problem... they're wrong!  Oops... ignore the other ones and use these instead.  Note the bold for changes from my erroneous calculations.

Stop.  Hammer time --
Primary applications: 17
Instant rejections: 1
Secondary applications: 16
Post-secondary rejections (i.e. without an interview) to date: 4
Interview invitations to date: 6
Interviews completed to date: 3
Post-interview rejections to date: 0
Acceptances to date: 0

Saturday, January 23, 2010

Organization or lack thereof

Disclaimer: If you happen to be reading this AND you're a med school at which I've interviewed (and you may or may not even know who you are), I love you, I loved your interview day, this is all hypothetical, please admit me.  And stop reading.  Now.  I'm serious.  You should already have closed this window.  Unless you're not a medical school, and then you may continue to read, but I make no guarantees that you won't have regretted wasting your time later.

The scariest thing to me about the interview process isn't so much the interviews themselves, as the way in which the interview day is scheduled.  Or for that matter, the way it isn't scheduled.  So far, every school that I've visited has done a good job of keeping the interviewees occupied, without making us feel overwhelmed.  I'm beginning to get the sense, though, that some schools do not place as great a priority on that.  But I may just have a personal bias.

Here's the way that I would think all schools would run their interview days, if at all possible:

First, while I understand why they start the interview day at 8am (okay, so I don't actually, but if I had to guess it would be to see how we handle ourselves at times of day when classes normally occur), I'd love to start an hour later.

Second, interviews should happen at the same time, and in the same place.  I understand that physicians and med school students are busy.  However, I've also experienced interview days where everyone was in the same place for all of their interviews.  The interviewers set aside their entire day just to take care of interviews!  I'm a fan.

Third... okay, there isn't really a third.  Those first two take care of all of my big interview issues.  Actually, forget about the first one, and focus on the second.  And maybe add to that how nice it would be if schools provided coffee and granola bars or something similar in the morning for breakfast.  I know, I know, it would cost them so much extra to do that, and they should just be spending that money on our education instead, but whatever.  I like coffee.  If that means they have to give me a plain manila envelope instead of a fancy school-decorated one, I think they should go for it.  And maybe pre-printed name tags.  They should feel free to use "Hello my name is..." labels, too.  I just wouldn't count on my being able to remember how to spell my own name, let alone write it, when I'm sitting there trying to remember how to speak English.

That's all for today.  No, wait.  Okay, yes.  I just had a brilliant thought that hopefully I can write about later.  It involves airlines (Alex, remember, write about airlines).

I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there...
Primary applications: 16
Instant rejections: 1
Secondary applications: 15
Post-secondary rejections (i.e. without an interview) to date: 2
Interview invitations to date: 5
Interviews completed to date: 3
Post-interview rejections to date: 0
Acceptances to date: 0

Friday, January 22, 2010

Interviewing in the Rain

If you've been reading/watching/absorbing-via-some-kind-of-strange-osmosis the news lately, you'll already be aware that the weather has been anything but bright and sunny in California this past week.  Not only not-bright-nor-sunny, but with the added bonus of flooding.  The kind of flooding that led the LA Times to refer to several freeways as car pools (hah!).  The kind of flooding that shuts down several southland freeways, but fortunately did not affect my travel plans.  At least did not affect them in a couldn't-get-places way.  But did, instead, make it take more than twice the time it should have taken.  This happens when people refuse to drive over 30 miles per hour.  Which is probably for the best, all things considered, because driving is kind of scary when the rain is falling so hard that the car which was previously 50 feet ahead of you suddenly disappears in the deluge.  This is also the kind of flooding that delays shuttle buses and leaves folks (i.e. me) standing in the rain getting steadily soaked.  The interviews were good, though!  At least, the parts where I wasn't focused on how the lower 2/3 of my legs were completely soaked.  Or the way that my wet socks and shoes tore my feet into blistery messes.  Pretty picture, right?  It didn't occur to me until I got home that, having been at a hospital, I should have asked for a band-aid or two.  Of course, now I'm home, and I still haven't done anything about it.

I'd just like to go ahead and throw a generalization out there about interviews: at least in my experience, just knowing what it is that I've written about in my application tends to be good enough.  Sure, the interviewers occasionally throw some crazy questions, but I've found that just telling the truth, while certainly a lot less entertaining than telling outrageous stories about knights and dragons and slaying the o-chem monster, is a lot easier and usually succeeds in conveying whatever point I was trying to make.  Of course, if your interviewer opens with a line about dungeons and dragons, by all means, tell some stories!

Anyway.  That's my posting for the day.  Yes, it wasn't much about interviewing.  No, none of the interviewing actually occurred in the rain, per se. And maybe I mostly just talked about how the rain did nothing to improve my week.  But you'll live.  Somehow.

Where it's at --
Primary applications: 16
Instant rejections: 1
Secondary applications: 15
Post-secondary rejections (i.e. without an interview) to date: 2
Interview invitations to date: 4
Interviews completed to date: 3
Post-interview rejections to date: 0
Acceptances to date: 0

Tuesday, January 19, 2010

The Story Thus Far

So it occurs to me that anyone who was waiting for updates has been waiting for an awfully long time. And that's because so far, I haven't actually said any of the things that I was supposed to. The truth of the matter is that I'm actually not sure what it is that would be safe to share without endangering my chances of getting into any of the schools to which I applied. And I'm not even sure whom I should ask!

Anyway, that means what I'm going to say right now is intentionally vague, and you'll just have to forgive me for it.

First, the application process was unnecessarily painful. In this, I can point a finger at almost every single school to which I applied. The initial application, the one that is sent out to every school, is quite thorough. And it gives a chance to write a personal statement, as well as to explain a little bit about all of the important activities of the last five years. So why, then, do schools want me to list my activities again? Everyone says that one shouldn't repeat anything from the primary application in the secondary applications, but come on! What am I supposed to do? "Well, let's see, I've already talked about volunteering at hospitals... I know! I'll tell them about this new hair product I'm using! Surely they'll think my grooming habits are worth noting." I don't think so. Of course, maybe there's someone out there who has been writing about things like hair products, and they're probably the ones getting into schools.

Ah yes. Getting into schools. Hasn't happened for me, yet. Though I have gone on two interviews! Interview days, it seems to me, are more of a chance for the school to try to impress you, and see whether or not you smell bad and can keep smiling in a room full of other anxious wanna-be-students. I make no guarantee about how I smell, but smiling? That, I've got down. Most of my interviews so far have felt like discussions about... well, about something I know pretty well: me. So far, no one has thrown any curve balls, either. Or if they have, I've been blithely ignorant of them, and that would explain the lack of acceptance letters. Not that there have been many rejection letters, either. But yes, some. I'm not going to list which schools, because on the off chance that someone from an admissions office reads this (hi there! I want to go to your school!), I don't want to give them the upper hand. Except for UNLV. UNLV I can tell you all about. They rejected me. In fact, I'd be willing to guess that any other California resident who applied there also got rejected. As did any resident of any state in the mid west or on the east coast. That's because they only consider Nevada residents and residents of their catchment states, i.e. neighboring states without many med school options. California has med school options. I should know, I applied to nearly all of them.

This brings me to something... well, disturbing, I guess. Many people have already taken out loans for med school. Or at least, for med school applications. That's because in order to really be sure that you have a chance at getting in SOMEWHERE, one has to apply all over the place. For every school added to one's primary application, there's a fee. And then for every secondary application one submits, there's another fee. And then to get to interviews, if they are indeed offered, one has to pay for flights, and typically transportation from the airport, as well as a hotel room. I think, so far, only one school has cost, in terms of all of these expenses, greater than $500, but that's no laughing matter! Unless one finds it funny to already be in debt before med school has even begun. And maybe I do. A little bit.

So why am I writing again, you ask? Because I have another interview on Thursday. And right now I'm trying to find things to do to keep myself entertained instead of packing. Fortunately, I don't have to leave until tomorrow afternoon. However, if it turns out that my suit is all wrinkled when I finally get around to looking at it this evening, I'm going to be a bit annoyed. And by annoyed, I mean run around like a chicken with my head off. To any vegetarian or vegan readers who found that imagery distasteful, I apologize, it's what I've got.

If you'd like to keep track with me, here's the score:
Primary applications: 16
Instant rejections: 1
Secondary applications: 15
Post-secondary rejections (i.e. without an interview) to date: 2
Interview invitations to date: 4
Interviews completed to date: 2
Post-interview rejections to date: 0
Acceptances to date: 0

I'll update this as they happen. And then you can read more if you want.
Or not. =o)